Logo Exchange & Brian Harvey's article (was LOGO-L> Re: Recursive Stars)

[Frank Caggiano <caggiano@atlantic.net>]

Brian,

	Thanks for the in-depth reply to my post concerning your article in
Logo Exchange.  I would like to continue the dialog and will be posting
a follow-up after the holidays.

	 One point I'd like to make now concerns the section below on web page
feedback.

you wrote:
> 
> Feedback to a publisher is not the same thing as conversation among
> peers!  It's like this "electronic democracy" idea people keep pushing,
> in which politicians with an axe to grind set out a yes-or-no proposition,
> and you can vote Yes or No, but you can't (at least not effectively)
> call into question the presuppositions of the proposition.
> 

	  You equate web page feedback to sending feedback to a publisher,
which you feel is ineffective.  First, on the web  the distinction
between publisher and author is blurring and for all intents and
purposes doesn't exist. So the feedback is going to the author. And
while some web authors may ignore the feedback some do want to enter
into a dialog concerning the site or the ideas behind the site. And
while you probably won't get a web site to shut down because of your
views about it, you may just get the author working in a direction more
to your liking. If you feel that just engaging the author isn't dialog
enough it would be easy to broaden the scope of the discussion by cc'ing
an appropriate newsgroup or list. Most of the interesting sites that I
have seen I have learned about through discussions in newsgroups or on
mailing lists.

	By painting all web authors with the same broad brush you do a
disservice to those who are trying to get the web to move in a positive
direction. If those of us who feel as you do, and I do agree with a lot
of what you say concerning the current state of the web, leave the web
to those who are pushing the hype aspect of it then when the web is
nothing but hype we'll have no one to blame but ourselves.  

	Had more people stood up in the early days of TV and insisted that it
not become just a vehicle to carry advertisement ( the sole purpose of
the shows on commercial TV are to pull in the maximum number of viewers
for the ads and fill in the time between and now with infomercials they
have managed to do away with the show) then maybe TV would have turned
out differently.  Do we really want to leave the web to those same
interests?

regards,

-- 
Frank Caggiano
caggiano@atlantic.net
http://www.atlantic.net/~caggiano
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