Re: LOGO-L>curve plot

[George Mills <mills@softronix.com>]

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, George Mills wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps, Mr. Mixupper, you should learn how to use your news reader.
> > Netscape mail sent it out unwrapped and the LOGO-L listserver
> > sent it back unwrapped. The LOGO-L listserver also sent it to
> > the comp.lang.logo news group unwrapped and I just viewed it
> > with netscape news reader and it's unwrapped.
> >
> > The problem is you have wrapping enabled on your news viewer
> > set at column 70. What are you using WebTV? Your also sending
> > at column 70 wrapped.
> >
> > That is another option folks should think about if they choose to
> > paste code inline. You might want to shut off wrapping on send
> > and receive.
> >

He called me a moron, and acting like a know it all, blamed me for HIS
news reader wrapping my post.

I have no problem with his concerns of attachments or others concerns.
But he could of been more polite about it, as others were.

Most people sharing code, particularly specific to a specific flavor of logo,
have the expectations that the other parties will load it, run it, or experiment with it.
If senders realized receivers are either giving up or spending
significant amounts of time unraveling it I think they would like to know how one might
resolve it.

I proposed using attachments. I still feel it can be a valuable ADDITION rather than
my first recommendation of a substitution for pasting inline.

Setting a wide wrap or nowrap on outgoing pasted code is also a possible solution.

If you had a Windows machine with Netscape Mail you'd see why attachments are so
attractive.

If logo developers have to worry about being under 70 characters to
post their work they might just decide to pass. If receivers of code that got
wrapped code have to spend an hour unwrapping then they may just pass.
Everyone looses, it was simply an attempt to make things smoother and still
can be. Next time, perhaps, I'll just stay quiet.

I thought attachments were not an issue these days, even the dumbest mailer
in the world, Lotus CCMail, can deal with them. I thought UNIX mailers would be the
the most compatible, sorry for my ignorance.

> Now hold on here a minute. Let's not start a Flame War. I'm a UNIX user and
> my main mail reader is PINE. I often read my mail from a VT100 terminal
> emulator somewhere else on my network (a 286 with MINIX 2.0.0 over my
> ethernet) and I really hate it when I have to go in the attachement viewer
> and save files that often don't get saved correctly because of MIME
> misunderstanding. Moreover, files are saved on another machine on the
> network. Why not simply put the code INlined in the messages. Might be less
> practical to run it from MSWlogo or Netscape but at least everyone with any
> mail viewer will be able to see the code. LOGO is used worldwide in coutries
> were a decent machine does NOT include Netscape or Explorer and where
> internet bandwidth is Limited. There are also Amiga, Mac, UNIX and VMS
> systems receiving mail from this mailing list. Windows might be a popular
> platform but it is NOT the ONLY platform :)
> 
>         Regards,
> 
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