Re: LOGO-L> Solving a Max Problem Using Logo

["Dale R. Reed" <dale-reed@worldnet.att.net>]

Yehuda wrote:
>Dale's solution is a good one, but has 3 points that can be improved:

This exchange brings up a point that I(and obviously many of you)
think about a lot. It concerns the nature of school.  Now I could
write a book on these subjects but they have already been written and
besides being an engineer I think the best things are kept simple.
Like my solution to Yehuda's box problem.

And forgive me for I am not a TEACHER but instead a learner and having
a trouble separating and evaluating behaviorism vs constructivism,
self-directed learning vs teacher-directed learning,
schooling vs unschooling, and
reading_writing_arithmetic_taught_to_the_rule_of_the_hickory_stick vs
progressive/democratic/Sudbury_Valley_models.

Yehuda, the reason I am writing this message is I think you and Bill
and many of the others on this list will eventually be marketing your
talents in cyberspace.  You are now simply
displaying/showing/developing_your_presentations but eventually you
will derive serious(this will be the work that will pay your grocery
bills) money from these efforts.  You will no longer be obtaining a
regular pay check from teaching in a SCHOOL that expects you to TEACH
Logo or programming or whatever.  That expects you to say to your
student:  > Dale's solution is a good one, but has 3 points that can
be improved:

I could go into the reasons(I have references) that one should not
praise a student in this manner.  And even worse then to continue, in
the same sentence, discourage him from taking the risk of handing-in
the first solution that came to his mind.  Of course after I sent my
solution to the List I continued figuring how to plot the result and
then making smaller incremental steps.  Unfortunately(I have had too
much book-larning) I had already solved for the maximum and minimums
by calculating dx/dV so I knew 5 was the maximum  so personally did
not have much incentive to go farther but a little kid would have.

At least he would if he was in a truly constructivist environment.


I think future(and me right now) students(at least little students)
and their tuition paying parents will want you cyberLogoGarus to
encourage risk taking, thinking fast, communicating clearly and
obtaining the correct answers to real world problems.

What I am telling you all is Logo is not the tail that is going to wag
the educational world dog into a new constuctivist way of thinking.
However if you focus yourselves on what you and your Logo tool is
really best at then you will be able to improve you ability to earn a
honest living in the future with Logo.   Dale
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