Re: LOGO-L> learning with/from logo

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> Hi, 
> 
> I am curious as to the ways in which children learn how to use logo, and 
> what they learn from its use. Logo gives a whole new perspective on 
> learning- could you please tell me your ideas on how logo can be learnt 
> (as opposed to taught) and the types of insights children gain from 
> using logo.
> 
> Thanks, Ky-Lee
> 
> ky_leem@hotmail.com
> 
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I first experience turtle movement in Quick Basic on a IBM PS 2/50,
with the instruction DRAW and there, the preferred instructions were
UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT, there where also Pen UP and Pen DOWN, TURN a
number of radians, and something called ZOOM, because you couldn't use
numbers as arguments to UP, DOWN, etc. (if I'm not mistaken), at least
it was not easy.

Then when I was 13, my computer class was given using LADY BUG on IBM
PS 25. That was the first experience on using computers (and
programming) to many of my friends.

Though I received instruction by my father (on a liquid chalk
blackboard) on some principles of procedural programming I invented my
on projects. I was most interested in cryptography, designing symbols,
ideography (iconography, hieroglyphics), phonemes, etc. Just a few
months ago I found that there is/was serious adult research on this by
the name of "A preferential, pattern seeking semantics for natural
language inference" Wilks, Y.A. I used astrological ideas as part of
my semantics and designed very (may I say) stylish symbols for ideas
like: life-god, me-my-I, love, have, want, hate, feel-sentiments, etc.
I printed some sentences and put them on my room's walls like
graffiti.

I did this in Basic with the DRAW statement. But it would have been
much, much more fun and easy to do it with MSWLogo. You wouldn't
believe what was my method of doing the printing of 10x10 cm graphic 
symbols using Quickbasic.

I tried the three types of writing: a-symbol-a-letter,
a-symbol-a-phonem, and a-simbol-an-ideal. For the a-symbol-a-letter
type I designed the symbols I showed you all a week or so ago, the
posting said something about symmetry.

There is a paper "Egyptian Hieroglyphics and LogoWriter" by Thomas F.
Trocco. I was thinking about doing something similar to that when I
was a kid.

Even before all this. before the IBM PS/2 I had a TI computer (1982),
something like Commodore computer. I learned some music theory with
it. I used to translate simple tune (I remember WHEN THE SAINTS GO
MARCHING...) written in musical notation to BASIC statements like CALL
SOUND 110, 1000. 

I know MSWLogo has similar capabilities (using the PC speaker) it
sounds very similar to what I had back in 1982. I would love to hear
piano notes, or violin notes using LOGO and something like MIDI
technology. I know you can play MIDI files but I don't know if it is
possible to _create_ music with it. I understood how to read music
that way.  Though it may be better to learn this things playing
conventional instruments, I don't know, all I'm saying is that it was
fun to do. Besides computers, whistling was (and is) my only other
way to reproduce a tune.


I'll stop for now.


Daniel 
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