From: IN%"mccallis@mesa5.mesa.colorado.edu" "gary mccallister" 21-FEB-1998 06:09:06.48 To: IN%"jstclair@omsd.cerf.fred.org" CC: IN%"logo-list@gsn.org" Subj: RE: LOGO-L> constructionism Return-path: <mccallis@mesa5.mesa.colorado.edu> Received: from gsn.org by MAGILL.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU (PMDF V5.1-9 #20435) with ESMTP id <01ITTXVY3TDO000B1L@MAGILL.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU> for KERRB@MAGILL.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 06:08:57 +0930 Received: from mesa5.mesa.colorado.edu (mesa5.mesa.colorado.edu [198.233.35.99]) by gsn.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05852 for <logo-list@gsn.org>; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:28:17 -0800 Received: (from mccallis@localhost) by mesa5.mesa.colorado.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22089; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:29:30 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:29:30 -0700 (MST) From: gary mccallister <mccallis@mesa5.mesa.colorado.edu> Subject: Re: LOGO-L> constructionism In-reply-to: <"20 Feb 98 05:21:28"@omsd.cerf.fred.org> To: jstclair@omsd.cerf.fred.org Cc: logo-list@gsn.org Message-id: <Pine.SV4.3.91.980220122723.21185B-100000@mesa5.mesa.colorado.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Gary Mccallister wrote:- > You know, if I find a set of data that allows me to make a >prediction and be right significantly more often than I am wrong, and >that allows me some greater control over my environment and over events >that occur, I really don't care if someone can "falsify" it or not. Does >this make me a shallow person? I agree that philosophy that cannot be useful should be discarded. Its just that it doesn't seem fair to me that behaviourism can be falsified but constructionism cannot. eg. a simple S-R paradigm cannot explain how we solve hard problems, because by definition hard problems are ones where we make mistakes along the road of solving them. But constructionism (that we make mental models) just seems to be a self evident truth. Constructionism is a good idea but its not science. We would have to get into the how we make mental models (the mechanism) for it to be science. One critique of Piaget, Chomsky is that they are mentalist. ie. they just postulate the existence of mental structures without attempting to explain how they came about. That's a useful exercise in imagination but I wouldn't be satisfied at just leaving it at that. -- Bill Kerr --------------------------------------------------------------- Please post messages to the Logo forum to logo-l@gsn.org. Mail questions about the list administration to logofdn@gsn.org. To unsubscribe send unsubscribe logo-l to majordomo@gsn.org.
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